**EPISODE EN ANGLAIS**

Jelle Klaas is a lawyer in The Netherlands since 2004. He is specialized in human rights litigation and works as an in-house attorney at the Dutch section of the International Commission of Jurists, which is a non profit organisation. There, he leads the Public Interest Litigation Project, which is a project that explores the possibility of using strategic litigation in the field of human rights in The Netherlands.

With Jelle, we talked about:

• the status quo;
• activism;
• what poverty is about;
• spices;
• differences;
• the saviour complex;
• suit;
• teamwork;
• the cause;
• coffee;
• lobbying;
• rich people money;
• toga;
• piercings;
• being a white man; and
• masks.

Among his sources of inspiration, he mentioned The Center for Constitutional Rights in the USA.

The last book that he read and that everyone should read is The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin / La cinquième saison.

You can contact him by email at jklaas@pilpnjcm.nl.

Thanks to Jan Ortgies for the recommendation!

Enjoy this episode!

Lilas Louise

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